four years? the problem for team obama, the president didn't make that case for himself when he had 70 million people at the debate and now they'll take down mitt romney with fact-checking and challenging what he said in the debate in advertisements and speeches, but they will not have that same, large audience. >> peter noted that later in the week, the vice presidential debate will take place. could that be a potential game changer given the uneven debate we just saw this past week? >> normally the vice presidential debates are not that key, but now all eyes will be on joe biden to show that he can do a better job than his boss, if you will, president obama against paul ryan and this will be a tough debate. i've been told david axelrod had been planning to take charge of the debate camp, and now he is in charge with the vice president's team. >> andrea mitchell, thank you. >> you bet. another story we're following tonight, gas prices. they're dropping across much of the country which make the soaring increases in california all the more startling.